Mutating Bioroids 2.0

x3r0h0ur 8877

Updated my "Quandry Gets Multiple Subroutines!" deck. Unfortunately, I had to abandon poor quandary due to instant and normal parasite recursion, she never lives long enough to mutate against those builds.

I've updated to a more diverse win-condition set with BL and 3/2s as I started to get better at having cash on hand.

Also I added Tyr's hand due to so much of my ice getting clicked. Now with Tyr's hand, you can let a runner go through your wotan, and deny him on the last or clicks subroutine for luls.

Reducing the ice count due to how much I was throwing away, when levy university is available, you just need less ice, so this lead to taking out ABT and replacing with vitruvious to help recur cards like mutate, BL and economy. I removed viktor 2 due to the lower money in the deck, I did not find that I needed a semi porous early game ice, vs the times I would mutate it out disappointingly.

Now the deck sings with NeXT bronze surviving 1 turn to mutate, filter the whole deck of small ice in 1 turn with levy (most times). BL to wrap up the game when you early score behind 2 fatties (usually 5 points or so).

It's kind of funny, people see me use levy to go get Bronze and they presume its some NeXT/Grail ice based deck, which can be mildly exploited. I also love to see a runner tutor up a breaker, only to have me mutate the heimdall 2.0 into an ichi 2.0 over another heimdall.

Often times a play would be to mutate a BER or OAI'ed ice to make it permanent, and not derez/trashable, and then reuse the BER/OAI with AM to rez big ice on your scoring remote. This deck is amazingly flexible, fun, and can actually win now! Leave your thoughts!

8 comments
26 Aug 2014 Chimpster

This is brilliant, was trying to build a deck around mutate and never even considered the power of Levy in this style of build. Very clever!

26 Aug 2014 Chimpster

Also, how about swapping Tyr's for Heinlein Grid? Added benefit of not being trash to use for a similar effect (horrible to try and click through).

26 Aug 2014 x3r0h0ur

I think heinlein might be pretty good, Tyr's was for raw stopping power on Heimdalls and Wotans, but it doesn't seem to be working well. I'm not sure these are the best changes, I'm not sure what this build needs....

28 Aug 2014 Chimpster

Played with this last night in a tournament and really enjoyed it although I agree it's missing something.

Personally I feel that upgrading the quandries to bronze doesn't go far enough, as soon as you see a grimore hit the table, mutate becomes a dead card later on. I'm planning on swapping them out for Elis to ensure I can still hit with mutate later on.

Haven't had a chance to test Heinlein yet but my gut tells me it's the right call, especially when I swap out the bronze for eli, as soon as you have a double stacked bioroid, they have to break the old fashioned way and can't click through one piece of ice.

The other changes I plan to make kind of take away from the idea of the deck so take them with a pinch of salt. As much as I love the idea of Levy, it never seems to really be worthwhile, especially for the 3 rez cost in a deckwhere you don't have a big pool of credits. I'm actually quite happy to fire mutate blind and take the risk of pulling another eli and then archive it back to try again.

Equally, I think a third OAI is strictly better than a third mutate, this then frees up additional influence for a third Jackson, at which point I'd rather have 3 ABT's in the deck instead. With so much big ice, ABT could be game winning, even with a relatively low ice density, it's definitely a risk worth taking with a jackson out on the board anyway.

Finally, next pack, Eliza's Toybox will fit in really well with this deck and I'll definitely be including it at that stage, gives the deck another way to hard rez key pieces of ice on the cheap.

Really enjoyed the deck overall though, looking forward to polishing and trying out different things with it, I think it has some real potential!

30 Aug 2014 Duxmar

Super fun deck! I find myself mutating 3 or more times a game, so think I wouldn't cut any of them, but either I need to get more familiar with the deck or it needs just that little something, but it is the most fun I've ever had losing.

I'm thinking of going with hunter as my small ice, as the four strength for 1 rez is good math, and I might accidentally blow up some resources. Thanks for the amazing idea!

30 Aug 2014 Bad_angel

@Chimpster If you want replace the Next ice I think it is better if you use Viktor 1.0. 1. Its strength is lower but the rez cost is the same. 2. If you replace Next with Elis than In your deck wont be any code gate. It is good for the runner for he need only 2 ice breaker to run against you. 3. Face check. If somebody make face check against Eli than he can check out without any problem. 1 click for 3 credit. But if he makes face check against Victor than he need to spend one more click to avoid brain damage. 2 click for 3 credit. @x3r0h0ur I played with this deck last week a few times and I didn't feel the economy so strong. I had always 4-5 credits and I wasn't able to rez the 5/3 agenda. Did I play something wrong? What is your experience?

4 Sep 2014 doubletheron

A few comments. I liked the low adgenda density from having only three pointers, it let me feel a little safer leaving RnD with only and Wotan and Heimdall protecting it. Some cards that I think the deck benefits from: Enhanced Login Protocol (the bioroid lose-a-click current), and Melange Mining Corp. MMC does two things 1) make a a bunch of money and more importantly 2) force the runner to spend their money runnign your scoring remote instead of your centrals.

4 Sep 2014 x3r0h0ur

I was considering interns pulling oduble duty on mmc. MMC looks pretty good to me.

As for the econ, its not strong, it runs on low credits, often times you're throwing an agenda into the remote with 5 credits to score it with and thats it.